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~Hakurei Shrine~ => Touhou Addict Recovery Center => Topic started by: Kotоhime on February 21, 2022, 10:29:39 PM

Title: ZUN's instruments and styles
Post by: Kotоhime on February 21, 2022, 10:29:39 PM
Well well, in short - ZUN loves to experiment with various sounds and styles. Every game and album often sound distinct from each other and they have recognizable instruments that have been used specifically in said games. This has been pretty much a thing ever since ZUN obtained SD-90 (it's harder to tell the difference between PC-98 games and the SC-88Pro MIDIs...)
Anyway, every game and album pretty much represents a different style, though Dolls in Pseudo Paradise for example sound nearly like Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (though DiPP is more depressing-like).
I'm not the only person that has noticed it as there are various arrangers on Youtube or NicoVideo which upload rearranged tracks. Here are few examples:
https://youtu.be/Uql-Fde25Gw (https://youtu.be/Uql-Fde25Gw) - At the End of Spring in EoSD style
https://youtu.be/TaH96vR3zA4 (https://youtu.be/TaH96vR3zA4) - Lunate Elf in WBaWC style
https://youtu.be/i-okdLmcYOA (https://youtu.be/i-okdLmcYOA) - Retrospective Kyoto in LoLK style
https://youtu.be/S6i8Zdc55gU (https://youtu.be/S6i8Zdc55gU) - Doll Maker of Bucuresti in DiPP style
These are few examples. By now, the algorithm should probably pick up something for you~~
Share your thoughts. For me the best instruments were in Touhou 9, especially the percussion and organs (and bells in the background of some tracks too...) But my favorite ones are generally the Classic Era, Th11, Th12, Th13, Th14 Th15 and that's about it. I like sounds from Touhou 16 onwards. I do, but they don't have such impact on me as the previous ones. The biggest issue I find are the drums used in Touhou 16 onwards. (They may have appeared before, but they were lighter probably). There's something wrong with them, as if they were flat or something. Is it just me or does it impact you in a such way too?
Title: Re: ZUN's instruments and styles
Post by: williewillus on May 09, 2023, 03:19:05 AM
It's been interesting to see how ZUN's musical style has evolved for over 20 years and continues to do so.

I agree that the HSiFS drums are really grating on the ears, but it seems with UM Extra, HBM, and now UDoALG, he's left those drums behind for newer ones.

What I found more interesting is that I've seen some people complain that HBM and UDoALG music is a bit too relaxed or smoothed out, especially "Black Markets Can Happen Anywhere" and its Touhou 19 equivalent "The World Is Made of Cuteness". I personally like the new style a lot.
Title: Re: ZUN's instruments and styles
Post by: CyberAngel on May 09, 2023, 01:38:19 PM
Oh, you're right, the distorted drums are finaly gone. I do believe they worked for HSiFS music, but they definitely overstayed their welcome.

That said, they were replaced by percussion so weak it barely feels like having any presence. Now the music, ironically, sounds closer to those half-baked fake OSTs that used to pop up on YT before releases. Is ZUN losing his hearing, starting with low frequencies or something?